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David Platt Gets Smacked by A Lutheran
This could have been an awesome video….if the theology had been more biblical.
Posted by Joel Taylor on March 14, 2013 in Videos | 5 Comments
This could have been an awesome video….if the theology had been more biblical.
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So, Pastor Jonathan is saying the true gospel is all sins of all men are fully paid and “you are saved already” implying it is no longer a sin issue but a “Son” issue? Willfully rejecting Jesus then is the only reason one spends eternity in hell? Is that the official Lutheran position? Just curious.
Jesus died for all “the whole world”, that is true. But not all men come to faith. So not all are saved.
Why? Who knows why some hear and come to faith. God knows.
That’s the Lutheran doctrine. But “Lutheran” could mean anything, these days.
“On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?”
Here Jesus is not emphasizing reliance on one’s own deeds but that spiritual giftedness is no indication of knowing God. This guy and other Lutheran’s like him must have never read the sermon on the mount, the whole thing is nothing but ”moralism”. There are all sorts of conditions to salvation but not meritorious conditions.
Repentance that is based on buying ” get out of hell free” insurance, is the result of yet another false gospel, true repentance is the result of the wretched sinner coming face to face with the realisation that his sin is a stench before a Holy God, and that only the finished work of Christ will justify him before his maker.When , and only when churches begin preaching a gospel that brings sinners to their knees because of their sin , will we see an end to these sorts of videos.IMHO , any one claiming to be a pastor, and does not have in their possession a full understanding of what the gospel entails , has no bussiness being a pastor.
The law is preached to show us our sin and our wretched condition before God.
The gospel is preached to contrite souls broken by the law to present the forgiveness purchased by Christ’s work on the cross.
When you start saying the gospel is about what you do or how you live, you have confused the gospel with the law.
Rev. Fisk and others are not saying that you can live any which way you please upon conversion. What they are saying is that your obedience is not what saves you; essentially no different than what the Reformation church has maintained for many years.
What Platt is doing that is causing Fisk (and others like myself) so much concern is that Platt seems to be suggesting that the gospel is also about my own righteousness, and whether he realizes it or not he’s opening the door to semi-Pelagianism. He’s implying that my basis for my assurance is my own works and not the work of Christ on the cross. Inevitably, that makes ME the source of my salvation, how good I am, how many good deed’s I’VE done, whether or not I’M giving enough time, or money, or whether or not I’VE told enough people about Jesus today. Do you see the problem?
The other thing forgotten in the whole “missional” movement is the doctrine of vocation. Not everybody is called to be a full-time evangelist, pastor, or missionary. Some people are called to be faithful housewives who raise up godly children. Some people are called to be doctors who do their work while glorifying God. Some people are called to be steel workers who have a good testimony and an opportunity to bear witness to Christ while putting rivets into I-beams. Just because somebody isn’t selling everything they have and packing up to go on a missionary trip does not mean they are not being good disciples. Paul’s analogy of the body of Christ in I Corinthians is relevant here: not everybody in the body has the same function.
Finally, I would add this article addressing Francis Chan, who is not unlike Platt in his approach: http://www.drcone.com/2012/04/11/can-i-be-spiritual-if-i-still-have-my-own-teeth-a-review-of-francis-chans-crazy-love/