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The Achilles Heel of Islam
Dr. Robert Morey has one solution to the ‘alleged ‘war on terror’. Destroy the foundations of Islam. While all will not say ‘Amen’ to that, it’s worthwhile to point out that Christianity has a foundation which cannot be destroyed…ever. Islam, on the other hand, depends on places and buildings for its continued existence.
From his book Winning the War Against Radical Islam
“The terrorists and terrorist nations such as Saudi Arabia only fear one thing: the destruction of the religion of Islam. There is nothing in this life that has greater value to them than Islam. They are willing to sacrifice and even die to promote Islam. This religious motivation is the engine that drives the Jihad against us.
The path to Paradise, according to the Five Pillars of Islam, involves the city of Mecca and its stone temple called the Kabah. Muslims pray toward Mecca five times a day. What if Mecca didn’t exist anymore?
They must make a pilgrimage to Mecca and engage in an elaborate set of rituals centered around the Kabah once they arrive. What if Mecca and the Kabah were only blackened holes in the ground?
What if Medina, the burial place of Muhammad was wiped off the face of the planet?
What if the Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem was blown up?
The greatest weakness of Islam is that it is hopelessly tied to sacred cities and buildings. If these cities and buildings were destroyed, Islam would die within a generation as it would be apparent to all that its god could not protect the three holiest sites in Islam.
The Sword Held Over Their Heads
With American ships stationed all around Arabia and troops on the ground within Saudi Arabia itself, it would take about 7 minutes for cruise missiles to take out Mecca and Medina. These cities could be vaporized in minutes and there is nothing the Saudis or any other Muslim country could do to stop us. The Israelis could take out the Dome Mosque at the same time. It could happen so fast that no one would have the time to respond. With these surgical strikes, few lives would be lost. And, with three strikes against them, Islam is out!
The Threat
The US government and its allies must agree that this is the final solution to the Muslim problem. We must tell all terrorist groups that the next time they destroy the lives and properties of Americans at home or abroad, we will destroy Mecca, Medina and Dome Mosque. They will be responsible for destroying the three most holy sites in Islam and bringing the religion to its knees.
We must tell all the Muslim countries that are presently supporting and harboring terrorists that if they do not cease and desist at once, we will destroy the heart of their religion.
Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Islamic world would, for the first time in their bloody history of oppression and tyranny, have to give civil rights and human rights to women and non-Islamic religions. They would have to allow their people to decide for themselves what religion, if any, they want in their lives. The “religious police” would be disbanded.
All Islamic laws would have to give way to the UN declaration on human rights, civil rights, women’s rights and freedom of religion. Once Muslim governments took their foot off the neck of their people, millions of Muslims would convert to Christianity as they have had enough of oppression and violence from their Imams and Mullahs.”
-Dr. Robert Morey, Winning the War Against Radical Islam
What if Jesus really was the prince of peace?
He is. He’s the prince of peace between God and man. But not the prince of pansy pacifists. 🙂
When Jesus returns he will be wearing a robe dipped in blood from his enemies.
I see two problems with this….#1, our govt. is full of muslim sympathizers and will not pose a threat to Islam any time soon. Even our president bows to those devils.
#2, I’m all for ridding the earth of Islam, but why would anyone think that would lead to mass Christian conversion? Muslims are just like every other lost people….blinded and bound by the devil, and held captive to do his will. Take away one tyrant, and the far majority will choose another, maybe even more evil. Take away one false god and they will flock to another. Their real problem, like the unbelieving Jews of Jesus’ time, is not geopolitical tyranny. It is spiritual death and enslavement for which there is no human cure.
True, perhaps, but hopefully lives would be spared.
Time for a small nuke…. The head of the snake is Mecca ….cut its head off…
Really? Why do you think ISIS has threatened to destroy Mecca? Islamic State: “If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba” Any Idea at all why? Because they are pushing the Islam end times. Mecca is supposed to be destroyed. Then Islam can take over the world. How about that!!! Your western thinking will help all Muslims to INSTANTLY believe them must all fight with everything they have because the time has come. KNOW Your enemy. I don’t know who this guy is this Dr. But it’s not in Islamic studies. The Kaaba will be destroyed . And Abu Bakr Bagdaddi wants to be that man. Because it will spring board Islam to conquer the world totally for all time. Ending those who have fallen from the correct path of Islam.. the Shia.. World is 85/90 % Sunni. Iran is Shia.
If you can’t show me that in Scripture, you’re a fool.
And another thing…..Who in their right mind wants the UN to be the arbiter of human rights?
That I agree with!
My thought exactly: What on God’s green earth do we think the UN will do? Or could they even make a decision that would be for the good of the earth. They are the other unholy body.
Hear hear, they have put Saudis (NO human rights) in CHARGE of the UN Human Rights Commission.
Ok, this is a thorny one. Though I must confess “But not the prince of pansy pacifsts” did make me laugh aloud. I think from a hard, pragmatic, political point of view this makes sense. It is not the first time I’ve seen somebody suggest this course of action. Islam is uniquely tied to it’s “holy” sites in a way that knows no counterpart in Christianity. I could undestand a decision to do this, but I would not want to make it…and I think as a veteran of both the Navy and Army, I’m not too much of a pansy. Besides, really, how can a Calvinist be a pansy? Tulips are NOT pansies.
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.”
How will you love Muslims worldwide? Isn’t that a harder question to answer than, “How can we get rid of them?”
Tim, who asked the question “How do we get rid of them?”
I was glossing the point of the post, which is to eradicate Islam. I didn’t mean get rid of them as in kill them off, and apologize for the confusion.
It seems like Christ won converts by healing others, by being a servant, by looking even at others external needs when He knew they had deeper issues. I think that might be a more helpful model than trying to militantly exterminate sacred sites…
And believe me, as someone who lived in Egypt, having a military demolish sacred Muslim sites would change nothing except to inflame fundamentalists. But that’s not the point, which is that Christians should be responding to a higher standard of love. We are servants of the world, not gods.
The proposal by the Good Dr. is not too sound because the bible teaches that Iran (Elam) will destroy Saudi Arabia (Edom) in the last days “from Dedan to Teman no Arab shall pitch their tents ever again” these cities still exist too this very day. However Mecca and Medina is going to be up in Flames as he wishes and I would say rather shortly based on how Iran is going to get the nukes they are going to need to cause the massive “burning rivers of pitch” curtsy of Obama also (Mecca) has been identified as the “Mother of all Harlots” and the Shia Iranians have deep hatred for Mecca for many centuries the Dr. does not know the history of the Sunni and Shia.. In a nutshell the Sunni murdered what the Shia believed to be the next Messiah so they have been fighting to get the location changed from Mecca as the Place and direction of prayer towards the Burial site of the Shia Messiah figure located in Persia somewhere. This would be the third time the direction has been changed BTW so count ON IT only thing is that won’t last too long because the Anti-Christ Turkey will want the worship direction turned yet again…. So in the end it will never work we don’t need to do that Iran would LOVE it…They would be saying bomb away…we would end up uniting them being the very vessel the Lord uses to reveal the anti-Christ I say better not do that just stand aside and see what Obama has already started the ball rolling so to speak unfortunately for Americans we are going to be involved in a very bad allegiances.
Forgive US Lord!
I’m a little confused. Is it the contention of some here that the government and military are to have their functions negated in an anabaptist type view of the Sermon on the Mount??
This excerpt seems to take a limited view of human understanding or psychology. If not in its final analysis (at least the section you’ve copied) then certainly in its use of ‘us’ and ‘them’ language. By that language is he referring to U.S. citizens, Christians, caucasian U.S. citizens, caucasian Christians, everyone else besides Muslims in the world? Who is Dr. Morey referring to when he says ‘us’?
I’d have to agree with Tim and Jonathan. The conclusion that removing a geographical feature would suddenly create conversion seems rather obtuse. If only conversion was so easy. Perhaps removing several features of the U.S. might convert many Christians into truer followers… remove symbols of power and greed for instance. Why not try it here first as an experiment?
The last time you removed a boundary stone from your neighbor, how did he react? I would bet you see radical retaliation before you see conversion.
I wonder what would happen if Christians showed Islam more Christ instead of demanding the American govt. show Islam the strength of her arms? …or are they the same thing to ‘us’? Eh, we don’t need Christ. We Christians do far better relying on our own strength… especially if we live in America.
Ande,
Good points you made.
Not long ago, historically speaking, we threw off the yoke of political tyranny and state imposed religion. The gospel has been freely preached all these years. Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful for that. But where are we now as a nation?
Can anyone dispute that we are one of the most wicked nations on the earth? Are we not under God’s judgment right now?
My point is, circumstances are not man’s problem, the unregenerate heart is man’s problem. We sneer at the muslims who believe in converting the world to allah through force, and rightfully so. But it is equally carnal reasoning to think that blowing up holy sites is the way to get Christian converts. Is God really sovereign in salvation? Or does He need the help of our missiles?
I do believe in the right of a country to defend itself militarily. I am an army and air force vet, and definitely not a pacifist. I hate the false religion of Islam, and I also hate false Christianity. I’m not sure which is America’s greater enemy.
I am a long way from suggesting that America collectively is submitted to God or His Christ, but lets get some perspective here. I find little value in speculating about which is “America’s greater enemy” – Islam or false Christianity. Seems to me “false Christianity” is to be despised and rejected, but I am unaware of any false Christians likely to nuke Atlanta, L.A. or Dallas. Look, this country has problems. American Christians have problems. Priority problems. Earnestness problems. Doctrinal problems. But come now – Islam is wicked. It is a wicked “faith” founded by a wicked man followed by deluded men who are ipso facto anti-Christ. I leave it to others to determine who is more wicked – the U.S. or Saudi…but I don’t think anyone in this bunch posting here is planning to move their citizenship to ANY Islamic country due to problems in our own country. And look – if you know Muslims, be a genuine faithful believer before them…but this notion that America needs to concern itself with PC RE Muslims seems to me so much pop religion nonsense. I am glad these Islamic nations see the strong arm of America. When they do not, we may soon enough see the “strong arm” of Islam in our own neighborhoods.
There is a level of this comment that comes from a sincere lack of understanding of Islam. Yes, the Muslim faith is a corrupted picture of ultimate reality, and it does not have Christ in his proper Savior place, but to blatantly call it and everyone who follows it wicked – to single it out as such – is against the reality of Muslims and the reality of other belief systems. Many Muslims are in the place today that Christians were before the reformation. For example, did you know the average Muslim does not understand Quranic Arabic, which is one of the most complex languages out there? So any take on their holy scripture must come from authorities, just as in the pre-reformation Church.
This list could go on much longer, but it is worth pointing out another interesting piece. Muslims tend to Love Jesus. Honestly. I can’t tell you how many conversations I had with the Muslims living around me in Cairo where they would express admiration for Jesus and want to hear more. I very very highly recommend the book “Muslims, Christians, and Jesus” by Carl Medearis. It’s a very phenomenal book, and it helps us see that God, in his infinite power and wisdom, can use everything for His glory, and He always does it best through servanthood.
And a quick follow up to your point about “false Christians” nuking Atlanta or LA… No, there aren’t “false Christians” planning to destroy those cities, just as there aren’t Muslims planning to destroy Cairo or Medina, but this post seems to represent a false Christian trying to destroy Medina etc, and as a nation, our militant Christianity has led our leaders to warfare in Iraq…
Of course, since we are powerful and first world, we can justify our acts, giving them great, scholarly names like “preemptive war.” I don’t mean to exculpate either side by saying this: war is always awful and rarely necessary, and for Christians I wonder if, until the final war, we are asked to “be in the world and not of the world” regarding war, and to work a little harder to “beat our swords into ploughshares.”
Tim, I’ll tell you what, rightly or wrongly, I’ll defer to your greater expertise in all things Muslim. However, I find no “reality” in other belief systems that deny the Christian faith Not some goofy, sloppy notion of the Christian faith mind you, but the real jar of honey. Sorry, guess I am just narrow that way. By the way, if memory serves I said Islam is a wicked faith established by a wicked man, but I called the followers “deluded,” not wicked. Are they not deluded?? Is your vision of the Christian faith so broad that you can’t even agree that men following a false prophet and false faith are “deluded?” Or am I just a Christian curmudgeon??
Another thing. I’m sorry, but I do not think Muslims “tend to love Jesus,” unless you mean “love” in some sense significantly below the love of the Savior that is salvific. There is a vanity in submitting to Islam and the Koran while saying you “love Jesus.” Sorry. And your statement than “many Mulsims are in the place today that Christians were before the reformation” is strikingly odd. Do you mean to suggest parity between the reformation in Christianity and a potential one in Islam? Or even stranger, do you see a reformation in Islam as holding or promoting some sort of objective truth value?? Yikes!
Friend, admiration (alone) of Jesus is worth a warm bucket of camel spit. .Scripture reveals that Jesus had his share of admirers (John 6 and other places) that knew nothing of the new birth. Forgive me for the bluntness, but I suspect heaven will not have a side wing of Muslim admirers of Jesus. Finally, as a book dealer, lover and collector, I appreciate your recommendation for the book – but if it is either the source or confirmation of your point of view, with all kindness, I’ll pass.
David, I’m sorry my comment that your statement came out of some ignorance was offensive. I meant it only as it reads on its surface – not that I am an expert, but I do know a little about a culture and religion, and more importantly about a people, that are all too often coded in misinformation. Still, I didn’t mean to portray your views as inferior, so my apologies.
The book does a much better job at what I am getting at. The book is evangelistic at its heart (its writer has been a missionary – though he does not prefer the term – in the Middle East for decades), and does not try to portray Islam as an acceptable form of Christianity, just as I have not tried to do. What I do want to do is simply claim that things are not as simple as they seem, that God has allowed for multiple inroads to the Muslim’s heart, and that Jesus is a purifying fire for everyone, irrespective of culture. I certainly was not trying to espouse a postmodernist relativism of truth and faith.
By saying that Muslims are in the place of Christians pre-Reformation, I was merely suggesting that information is disseminated in a top-down structure that lends the actual Muslim very little control or hand in the process, akin to when the Bible was only read and written in Latin. Islam thus (and for many other reasons) is certainly not a faith of Relationship (though I do think Christians could learn a thing or two about obedience and submission from them), and there are sincere struggles for the everyday Muslim in understanding his or her faith, much less gaining the opportunity to see Christ in His glory. This is why we need an informed approach, one that makes us “all things to all people” for His glory.
Again, I certainly did not mean my comments aggressively, but admittedly this is an issue important to me. I do hope you give the book a scan – it is a short, easy read by an actual Islam and Middle East expert.
Tim, I appreciate your reply – but I suspect we are flying around this subject in two completely different orbits. Regards.
Tim, I let it go – was gone all day – then came back and read back over our posts. I confess, I am simply confused as to what your main point is. I hope (and think) you believe that Islam is a false way with a false gospel and a false God. I hope (and think) that you believe that there is no salvation in Islam. So other than just wanting to be “nice” to Muslims, I can’t quite figure out what your big-picture point is – but I’ll consider it if you post it. Regards.
Thanks for the opportunity, David. I admit, many times online my thoughts jump ahead of my fingers, and necessary transitions are lost. I do believe the things you mentioned, and I would condense my main points into:
1. The suggestions in the main post are militant, nationalistic, and top-down in a way that Christianity simply isn’t, as exemplified by Christ winning souls through seeking to heal the needs of individuals, and seeking always the answer to how best to love This person in front of him.
2. In our attempts to best love Muslims – which I believe is the mechanism by which God shows Himself to others – too often our perceptions are clouded by misinformation and political prejudice. Instead, it seems evident that a task of evangelism to Muslim people should be sincerely studied, and led by those who know the culture and religion best, such as the author Carl Medearis, whom I mentioned.
I suppose my hope is that a Christian seeking the conversion of group X would be as informed, nuanced, and as much of an expert on group X as is possible, whereas Dr. Morey’s suggestion, at least as it reads above, bows to internal and seemingly unquestioned assumptions about the character of Christ, Islam, geopolitics, etc etc that I find almost strikingly naive and unsubstantiated (and mostly either refuted or disagreed with) by the Bible, and secondly by the world.
It’s interesting to see all these ideas bouncing around without ever asking, “Why was this posted?” Joel, are you seeking agreement, disagreement, interest, dis-interest, other – what is the purpose of posting this excerpt?
I guess nuance replaces boldness in gospel preaching! I wonder how nuanced the early church was?
David, perhaps I am reading this comment wrongly, in which case I apologize, but it seems you might be trying in bad faith to get a “last word.” I’m not interested in pith as much as I am in content, so pardon me for replying to your comment with another one of length.
Since you brought up the early church: I am advocating for an early church kind of evangelism, completely and unreservedly. I am advocating for the nuance and boldness of Paul, who preached to Athens from within Athenian culture, even using their poetry in his sermon.
Isn’t 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 very clear on this? It seems more than logical that Paul, today, could easily add, “To the Muslim I became like the Muslim, in order to win the Muslim.”
Tim, tell you what – this will only be a post to formally give YOU the last word (in a subtantive sense). And if you want the literal last word, I assure you that whatever you post after this, will go uanswered by me, lest you repeat the accusation of “bad faith.” By the way, if you have been married for nearly 40 years as I have, you tend to seek the last word in any
forum you can find it. It’s all yours buddy. Regards.
Thinking the unthinkable. Absolutely right on! Without Mecca, Islam dies.
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Sounds “Like” A PLAN to me. Destroy the Pillars of Moslem, All Five PRIMARY TARGETS, and then HUNT For More. LEVEL IT INTO A PARKING LOT. BURN AND REPEAT AS NECESSARY, DE OPPRESSO LIBER, Chief
Sure, you may think that the erasure of Islam’s three venerated sites will lead to it’s destruction.
Have you given any thought to what happens next?
There will still be approximately ONE BILLION mozlems that have adopted islam as THE MAJOR COMPONENT of their IDENTITY.
Study what happens when an individual is REMOVED FROM A CULT – their whole FRAME OF REFERENCE has been BLOWN APART and to BUILD A NEW OPINION OF THEMSELVES can take years, IF they are EVER ABLE to do so.
MEANWHILE, the mozlem infantry that the anti-White New World Order Globalists have allowed to INFEST has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to lose by COMPLETING the DESTRUCTION they were SENT to ACCOMPLISH.
I agree. The only way to end the terrorism by Islamic extremists is to wipe out the foundation of their so-called religion. We must destroy the al-Aqsa mosque, the Ka’aba and the grand mosque, and the cities of Mecca and Medina. Islam is based on lies and deceit. Even their holidays they steal from other religions. For example, their festival called Eid al-Adha, which they say commemorates the willingness of Abraham to sacrifice his son Ishmael. WRONG!!! They stole that story and twisted to fit their own narrative. Everyone knows that it was Isaac, NOT Ishmael, that Abraham took out into the wilderness, and who he was willing to sacrifice. Ishmael and his mother Hagar had been sent out into the desert. Mohammed was a murderer, rapist, and pedophile, who supposedly had visions from his god during bouts of epileptic seizures. They even stole their god Allah from the pagan religion of the area where Mohammed lived. Allah represented their moon god. The Qu’ran is a handbook of murder, rape, and other abominations, that require the evil to take over the world and eradicate all those who don’t adhere to their so-called “religion of peace”. So the only way to stop the continual terrorist attacks around the world, is to eradicate the cause of those attacks. Take out the symbols and places this evil cult represents, and Islam will die. Problem solved.
I can’t ever imagine that the United States would ever go out with the intention to “destroy Islam”, or blow up Mecca; given that the US has an insidious relationship with Saudi Arabia, as it is dependent on the Saudis for its oil supply.
The U.S is far less dependent on Saudi oil as one might think. As a matter of fact the U.S didn’t win a single oil bid contract in Iraq, most were won by France. The only reason as to why we are enjoying lower fuel costs at the moment, is because domestic production had increased, and OPEC decided to keep up production to flood the market to cause prices to drop, thus to ruin and destroy American production.
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I’m not sure if it would end in massive conversion to Christianity still the gospel must be preach4ed, but the more I see it the more i like it. I also agree with Johnatan, our president would be the first hindrance to remove.
The largest bloc in the UN are the 56 Moslem countries, all of which subscribe to the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam which is not compatible with our notion of human rights. Therefore, the UN should never be trusted with anything having to do with human rights.
Here’s a thought…maybe we should make our military clothing from pig skins? And place pork bellies all over troop equipment, they wouldn’t dare touch them then. Just a thought.
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I agree with everything said in the above column, except for the very last sentence where he calls for all moslems to convert to Christianity. But I certainly do agree that Mecca, Medina and every mosque on our planet, must be wiped off the face of the Earth.
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Nuke Mecca!!!
Great, I have the same thought, but NO on the UN.
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